A formidable double act indeed.
We now have a podcast of 'The Map in the Palace' event, recorded in our Conference Centre on 14 June.
The inimitable Dr David Starkey and Head of Maps Peter Barber discuss the importance of maps in medieval and early modern palaces, and how they combined art, science, and power to enhance their impact.
Warning! It lasts for 70 min 38 sec, so don't try to download it if you are on a slow internet connection.
This link will take you to our Magnificent Maps podcast page